Finally some of the low-lifes got taken down a peg for their bad behavior. These guys are career criminals who contribute nothing and just take whatever they can get, legally or otherwise. They live rent-free by cheating the owners of the property they squat on, and live as slaves of Robert Gruntz of California- a white slave owner. Gruntz "employs" these slaves just like he did in California before he was thrown off that property along with the horses. He does not pay them- they just do his bidding and he holds the property hostage while shaking down various owners for whatever he can squeeze out of them. Gruntz loves to "employ" misfits, down-and-outers, and illegal immigrants who are not likely to cost him but who become entirely dependent on him. They have a cell-phone network of walkie-talkie cellphones so that their network becomes like a spider web with Gruntz at the center. Albring is in continuous contact with Gruntz, even though he is in California. Gruntz himself is a squatter on property he doesn't own. The poor horses he brought up from California had been living in squalor in Hemet on property Gruntz did not own also. It looks like Gruntz found the perfect place to conduct his underground syndicate- OREGON. The property laws are so liberal in Oregon that ownership means nothing. To quote a top Real Estate lawyer in Bend, "Possession is nine tenths of the law". I don't remember that class in law school.

These boys are far from thugs and to throw the word at them should not be taken lightly....For sure I am extremely angry about the neglect and the horrific cases these horses dealt with but I know these kids and they would never purposfully hurt the animals in such ways.... To be honest yes they were wrong for continuing to work for these horrible people who did not feed or care for their animals properly but really at their age where else would they find a job right now espeacilly here in Oregon the third highest state in the country for unemployment rates when there are men and women who have twice the time and skills they doing taking what jobs are left.... Give the kids some credit here at least they are working out of their parents homes and not leading the bumb off mom and dad pot smoking lives most guys their age are... I believe they were in a bad situation and experience will teach them for next time and they in no way deserve the full punishment the owner of the horses should get and in no way deserve to be publicaly bad mouthed by jerks who have no idea who they are what they honestly did and or even try....

If someone shot Greg's horse why was no one arrested for that?????????? If they killed his horse how come he still has all 4 of them?? My brother would never kill a harmless livestock animal, and the second thing is that these boys never worked in culver idiot they worked the powell butte ranch. Maybe you should learn how to take rejection better. I have been refraining from commenting but people know the real story about you jerk....your probably the one that has been turning them in all summer also and nothing happened then so your low life waited til the end of a hard winter to turn them in also. Yes things could have been done differently but again like jor_mama said at least they aren't at home doing drugs. I can tell you this they have not done any drugs in there entire life and they don't live off their parents but now they are probably going to have to. And as for them taking over your property your an idiot they dont even have any cows maybe you should look at the other person and as for them living rent free your a liar also they pay 750 a month I know because I have had to help out with food when they paid all there money to rent when times were hard and they don't even live on the property again idiot you don't know anything your just a loser. you're a big giant idiot and dont know what you are talking about and just trying to point fingers you need to shut you're mouth

I'll say it again- Mann, Hooks and Albring are thugs who are stealing from me, the owner of the property they are squatting on. They can;t be evicted because Gruntz and others in the phony "Arlington Group" will tie it up in court and cost even more hundreds of thousands. I have invested 300 thousand to provide rent-free housing for these thugs, who threaten to have me arrested if I set foot on my own land? You think maybe I'm pissed? You have no idea. As for the horse that was shot, who said they killed it? Maybe you know more than you are saying. Finally, if these thugs are paying 750 per month, they are throwing it away, because I. the owner, have not received one penny. If they are paying Gruntz, they are paying the wrong guy. The truth is, they work for slaveowner Gruntz for nothing, and he "gives them 750 per month credit toward "rent". Don't worry, these guys will be caught and prosecuted in due time- count on it.

I can assure you this Hooks and Mann are not thugs My little brother is far from a thug. They are not squatting on any land and nothing has been said to them they are living there to be closer to the ranch that way when something happens at night and they are needed they are right there. I believe it was last summer they had to wake up ever two to three hours to bottle feed a baby if they are so bad at taking care of animals they would never have taking away from their sleep to go out in the middle of the night and feed that baby. And yes I do know who you are your the one that tried to break into the house they are living on off of the hwy down the road. To bad the dog stopped you and not Gruntz you need to know what your talking about before you start spreading rumors. Because you are the one that wanted to be involved in this whole thing less than a year ago but got shut out so now you are turning them in cause you are pissed if you would have been accepted into the group nothing would be the problem your just stupid thats all there. Its not your property you wanted it to be but they kicked you out of the group. Sounds like a soar loser to me. And if the horse was injured then were is the vet bills removing the bullet and why didn't that make news and charges be pressed your just looking for people to fall for your story and line of bull and no one will your the phony

Look up the deed for yourself. I am the owner and Gruntz is nowhere to be found. I wasn't kicked out of "the group", as liar Gruntz claims- I left the group because I found out Gruntz was a criminal and a convicted felon. He is a slimeball from California- he spent time in the LA County jail. Don't take my word for it- google him yourself. You have the wrong guy- I never broke in or tried to break in to anyone's house, even if they are illegally squatting on my land. You tell your brother he is going to get kicked off the land one way or another. By the way, your spelling is atrocious- did you even finish high school? Go back to school and get a skill that you can make a living at. Good luck.

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